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T]hese are the facts concerning Obama’s LSAT score while attending Law School at Harvard University. We do not know his actual LSAT score; however, after much research, we found that the average LSAT score for all Harvard students is 171. The percentile rank for an LSAT score of 171 at Harvard is 98.8 %.

MENSA will accept LSAT scores as a means of qualifying for MENSA membership. (MENSA also accepts up to 200 various IQ tests and other tests of cognitive function as well.) The LSAT score required for MENSA membership is equal to a percentile of 95% or higher. Thus, basing Obama’s estimated LSAT score of 171 ranks him in the top 98.8% (percent/percentile) range which is clearly above the lowest acceptable LSAT percentage rank of 95%, which clearly affirms that Obama has a qualifying intelligence quotient that would allow him acceptance into MENSA.

Since MENSA accepts various IQ Tests as well as other cognitive tests to qualify for MENSA membership it is safe to estimate that Obama’s IQ Score could range anywhere from a low IQ score of 130 based on the Stanford Binet IQ Test, Revision 5, to a high IQ score of 148 based on the Cattell IQ Test.

What the IQ guy failed to account for is the fact that Harvard University practices affirmative action. PBS Frontline reports: “The gap in SAT scores persists even at the highest levels of achievement. A study of the 1989 applicants to five highly-selective universities found that white candidates’ average combined SAT score was 186 points higher than the corresponding SAT average for African American applicants.

Furthermore, the New York Times reports that “At the best schools, by contrast, efforts to diversify the student body translate into a 400-point bonus for minority students on the SAT tests.”

 

That 98.8 ranking based on the average Harvard LSAT translates to about a 135 IQ and a combined SAT score of 1290. That’s pretty good, if not spectacular. However, due to affirmative action, one must reduce that score by at least 186 points. (Also, I suspect the NYT article is talking about the new SAT, which isn’t valid for the purposes of this comparison.) Thus, giving Obama the benefit of the doubt drops his score to 1104, which is approximately equivalent to an IQ of 116. That’s not bad, but it is significantly less intelligent than Hillary’s 140 IQ, as well as being lower than George W. Bush’s 125 IQ (1206 SAT).

Before one points to the fact that Obama ranked highly in his class, it’s important to keep in mind that Bill Bradley was a Princeton Rhodes Scholar despite his 485 Verbal SAT and mediocre 103 IQ. Academic success, like every other kind of success, is just as much about hard work and determination as it is about intellectual firepower, but Barack Obama’s supporters obviously shouldn’t be attempting to make their case for him on the basis of what is, based on the available information, probably an IQ of 116, only one standard deviation above the norm. Of course, this estimate is based on averages which don’t necessarily apply to a single individual; Obama could lay the matter to rest by simply permitting his scores to be released to the public.

If his intelligence is so incredibly important, as some of his more visibly insane supporters insist, then surely the senator should inform us precisely how intelligent he is. Because he demonstrates his ignorance and a less-than-impressive intelligence nearly every time he opens his mouth despite his handlers attempts to retroactively fix his statements: “The fact that we have reached a point where the Federal Reserve felt it had to take this unprecedented step with the American Insurance Group is the final verdict on the failed economic philosophy of the last eight years.”

First, AIG didn’t fail because of the economic philosophy of the last eight years. The Fed began goosing the markets under Clinton. Second, that “unprecedented step” was taken with the American International Group.

 

 

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FACTS

In 2003, 3 African nations, Ghana, s. Africa, and Botswana participated in TIMSS physics.  The average score for the 5,150 students in Botswana who took the test was 443, seven of whom scored over 505, and none of whom scored over 549.  The average score for the 8,952 students in South Africa who took the test was 244, thirteen of whom scored over 447, and none of whom scored over 514.  So also in Ghana, where the average score for their 5,100 students was 239, seven of whom scored over 427, and none of whom scored over 514.

Conversely, the average score for the 6,018 students in Singapore was 579, eight of whom scored lower than 462, and none of whom scored lower than 423.  At best we can say that eight students in Singapore MAY have scored lower than SEVERAL of the thirteen highest scoring students in South Africa and SEVERAL of the seven highest scoring students in Ghana.  No student in Singapore scored 4 standard deviations higher than their mean, or 735, much less 5 standard deviations higher, at 774.

 

So needless to say, no student in Botswana, South Africa, nor Ghana ever scored four standard deviations higher, or 549, 514, or 489, respectively, either, much less five standard deviations higher, or 593, 581, or 551 respectively.  Such scores are in the range of the average for Taipei and Korea, whose IQs are in the range of 105 IQ points.  It simply boggles the imagination for us to be expected to believe that Obama was the ONE Kenyan in the entire world who scored not just one but TWO standard deviations higher than a place where NO Ghanan, Botswanan, or South African has ever ventured.  To claim that his IQ is 132 IQ points, yet another three standard deviations higher than the impossible, is the height of absurdity.  It would make Obama more valuable as a Wringly Brothers’ Circus freak than a six legged elephant.  Yet that’s exactly the claim that his presidential campaign made and you should be embarrassed to the hilt to see so many of your fellow countrymen fall for this circus act.

The average IQ of Kenya is 71 IQ points, the same as for Ghana, and 1 point lower than both Botswana and South Africa, at 72 IQ points.  Out of 38 million Kenyans, do you know how many score more than 5 standard deviations higher than that?  Only 11 do, at an IQ of only 96 IQ points, four standard deviations higher than their mean, and NONE have an IQ higher than 101 IQ points, five standard deviations higher than the mean.  Obama’s not even a Kenyan.  He’s a mixed breed and most mixed breeds of most species are of lower quality and intelligence than the pure breeds (otherwise why don’t mules race in horse races)?

California voters consider affirmative action to be CHEATING, which is why we outlawed it with Proposition 209 which actually amended the state constitution for the express purpose of KILLING it.  Obama is clearly left over from those days.

Why not simply require him to take the normal IQ test which any dog catcher in the country has to take in order to qualify for his job?

You can bet that this would settle the matter once and for all.

 

Correction, Tues. Dec. 23, 2008: 7% of the population of Botswana are Whites who score similar to their brethren back in England at 545, meaning that the 93% who’re blacks scored 358.  Only seven black students from Botswana scored over 456 and none of them scored over 514.  Therefore, none of the lowest scoring eight students in Singapore who scored lower than 462 are likely to have scored lower than the seven top scoring black students from Botswana, meaning there was no overlap of test scores between Singapore and Botswana.

 

 

 

 

 

Who Runs it?

Senators:                            Barack Obama & Dick Durbin Representative:                  Jesse Jackson, Jr. Illinois Governor:                 Rod Blogojevich (arrested) Illinois House leader:           Mike Madigan Illinois Attorney General:     Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike) Chicago Mayor:                  Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J. Daley) The leadership in Illinois:  

All Democrats.

  The combat zone in Chicago: Body count in the last six months:        

   292 killed (murdered) in Chicago      221 killed in Iraq State pension fund:

   $44 Billion in debt, worst in the country.

Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax:

   10.25% highest in country. (Look it up).

Chicago school system:

   Rated one of the worst in the country.

Of course, they’re all blaming each other.

They can’t blame Republicans because there aren’t any.

This is the political culture that Obama comes from in Illinois .   And he’s going to ‘”fix” Washington politics for us?   Good luck and may YAHWEH help us.]]>

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Actually, Obama had to have a remedial reading courses in College. But since he still thinks that “Hispanics” is a “race” and a “color,” I guess that says it all about his intelligence.
http://members.tripod.com/~Campello/hispanic.html
As far as him being a “dog catcher,” PLEASE do NOT give him any ideas, dogs and animals have been abused enough in this country and we certainly don’t want HIM in charge of man’s best friend!
As for the humans? This is what they want, this is what they got: Obama, dumb and DANGEROUS!

Update, Wednesday, December 31, 2008: we should add that for anyone in Ghana to score 676, an IQ of about 110 IQ points, he would have to score seven standard deviations (7 S.D.) higher than the average score for Ghana of 239, which is a mathematical impossibility. This is a range where only 137 students from Singapore and 12 students from the US scored.

iqtest.com is not really a valid IQ test. While tests like GRE and SAT and TIMSS were not designed specifically to test IQ, and they do have their limitations in doing that, they are much more comprehensive and credible than iqtest.com. Being only 32 true or false questions, just randomly guessing at iqtest.com will produce an “IQ” of 102, so anyone who scores lower than an “IQ” of 102 actually exhibits negative IQ.
And that’s part of the problem with the standardized tests mentioned above. The SAT consists of one essay question which can be scored only by subjective means, opening it up to controversy about whether or not it’s valid or accurate. The most objective part of the test are the 225 five part multiple choice questions which attempt to measure the probability of a student succeeding in college or graduate school. About 1/4th of these questions can be answered strictly from rote memorization. For simplicity we include the results of the essay question in this part of the test. The other 3/4ths require some form of reasoning or calculation which can be measured objectively.
The base score of 200 is assigned when a student signs their name. Of the 600 points between 200 and 800, another 150 points can be gained by knowing the subjects but not exhibiting any reasoning or critical thinking skills, for a total score thus far of 350. If a person were to just guess on the balance of the five part multiple choice questions, he would on average get 20% of them correct just by chance, for another 90 points and a total score of 440.
This score of 440 is conservative. In TIMSS physics, which is scored similarly and which has questions of equal validity and depth, the score of 474 for American girls represents a score for students who would have performed better if they’d just guessed on this part of the test.
So a score of 440, and possibly a score as high as 474, is not indicative of any reasoning or critical thinking skills at all. These skills are measured only between 440-474 and 800, with many Asian students (more than 10% of them) scoring higher than 800. This makes SAT a bad IQ test, particularly when American blacks consistently score lower than this, or 431 in both SAT Verbal and SAT Math, 391 in GRE Verbal, and 416 in GRE Quantitative.
While the College Board provides the standard deviation for black students in both SAT and GRE, scores this low cannot be expected to follow a normal Gaussian Distribution. For the average to be 431, there can’t be too many students who score higher than this, because it’s almost impossible to score lower than this, so their estimate that the standard deviation, say for black women who took GRE Verbal, is 88, is the most optimistic estimate.
iow, it’s scientifically, statistically, mathematically, and positively impossible for Obama to have an “IQ” of 127.

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Israelite I think you are an eccentric character who needs counseling on this hatred you have for black people. It’s OK to think that there are differences in Intelligence among different races, but to go out and say the the President of the United States has an IQ of 72 is rather silly. You might not like Black people but there is a limit. Yelling Nigger Nigger Nigger doesn’t make your argument any more valid. Give me proof that Obama is intellectually disabled and then tell me. To be honest, I have some qualms that in the 52 years he has spent on this planet, every person he ran into has seemed to overlook the traditional traits of mental retardation. I don’t think one can run into ‘liberals’ or ‘cultural marxists’ all their lives without end. He’d probably have to be 95 to perhaps 130.

You have a fifty percent chance of scoring higher than the mean.
You have one chance out of three of scoring one standard deviation higher than the mean.
You have one chance out of 22 of scoring two standard deviations higher than the mean.
You have one chance out of 370 of scoring three standard deviations higher than the mean.
You have one chance out of 15,787 of scoring four standard deviations higher than the mean.
You have one chance out of 1,744,278 of scoring five standard deviations higher than the mean.
You have one chance out of 506,797,346 of scoring six standard deviations higher than the mean.
iow, IF there were half a BILLION Botswanans in the world, which of course there are NOT, not a SINGLE one of them would have scored 784 and thus demonstrating an IQ of 132.
From another forum we have this: “This is just to inform jk@israeliteknight.com that I am really, REALLY keen on knowing this earth-shaking piece of information.”
Rather than taking a direct and honest approach at answering your question, I’m going to take an indirect and less honest approach which MIGHT not be censored by the education mafia.
If you look at the 2007 TIMSS math scores for 4,208 students in Botswana, 5,294 students in Ghana, and 3,407 students in Hong Kong who participated in this study, you will see that only 6 students in Botswana scored higher than 595 and only 7 students in Ghana scored higher than 585. If you take a detailed look at the Gaussian Distribution of these scores, you will see that NONE of the 4,208 students in Botswana and NONE of the 5,294 students in Ghana scored higher than 597.
So how does this equate to “IQ” that you are asking about?
The AVERAGE score for the 3,470 students in Hong Kong who took this test was 607, and NONE of them scored lower than 401 (37 points higher than the AVERAGE for Botswana of 364 and 92 points higher than the AVERAGE for Ghana of 309).
Professor Lynn graciously puts Hong Kong’s average IQ at 107. But he also puts the average IQ of Japan at aonly 105 and of Korea at 106 even though those two countries score higher than Hong Kong on many of these international tests. So it would be conservative [or perhaps more reasonable] to estimate that a TIMSS math score of 607 is equivalent to an IQ of 105, a score which NO student in either Botswana or Ghana achieved.
From a Hong Kong perspective, a TIMSS score of 784 is equivalent to an IQ of 132. Ghana’s score of 309 is 4.4 standard deviations (4.4 SD) lower than Hong Kong’s average score, and Botswana’s score of 364 is 3.6 SD lower. In order for a student in Hong Kong to score higher than 784 and thus demonstrate an IQ higher than 132, he would have to score 2.6 SD higher than Hong Kong’s average, a score which 34 Hong Kong students DID achieve.
As they scored MORE than 7 SD higher than Ghana and 6.2 SD higher than Botswana, can YOU tell us, GS, exactly how many Ghanans and Botswanans YOU would expect to have an IQ higher than 132?
Does THAT answer your question?

I need more than Lynn to be satisfied. The environmental factors of poor educational resources and the fact that a great deal of the students have limited access to the same facilities their peers in Hong Kong have makes a big difference. Let’s be real – the average iq of an African should be around 80 – a little than his peers in Asia and Europe but not mentally retarded. On an empirical note we all know that Lynn picked the worst fIndings for the Africans. I don’t see why you’re being so obtuse on the matter. I agree that there are racial differences but I also doubt that every single person with a shred of African descent is retarded.
I think your views on the matter are as well too fundamentalist and unreasonable. You logically want to destroy your opponents without acknowledging that your beloved Lynn (whom we all know has some odd bone to pick with African) has flaws. You don’t like Barak Obama – that’s fine, but just say I don’t like his policies. You should not go into this protracted and overly complex web of arguments that he is mentally retarded. They would have KNOWN he had a low IQ before he was accepted into grade school. For god’s sakes, they would have put him into a special Ed class. Lastly – As someone who has been rejected from Ivy league schools that anyone who puts black on a piece of paper will get in is not only stupid but also quite insulting. I’d recommend checking your insurance website for psychologists who specialize in phobia – in the 21st century for better or worse blacks are here to stay.

Lynn puts the average IQ of 26 African nations at less than 72. BUT standardized tests dispute that, suggesting that he over-estimated it by an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE (meaning less than 62). And if you look at factors like accidental traffic deaths per vehicle, a study published by a nigger at the UN, you will see that drivers in countries like Kenya drive as if though their IQ must be lower than 60:
http://fathersmanifesto.net/iqdrivers.htm
A straight line correlation puts the IQ of Tanzania (where I have lived) at 50, and of Uganda and Nigeria at lower than 20, whereas countries like Switzerland, Norway, and Japan have ONE THIRD as many fatal accidents per vehicle as we do, consistent with their much higher IQ than ours.
Whites had no money when we got here in 1492. Then we went to war against the world’s super sea power of the time and gave up all our assets. Yet two short centuries later, that former sea power came to us hat in hand to save them from the nasty Germans during WWII. Niggers didn’t do that. Niggers never did that in 100,000 years of Afica being around. Niggers destroy everything we built, including my hometown, including once beautiful Detroit and New Orleans and almost half of Los Angeles, and if we didn’t have five police forces in DC, it would now look even worse than Detroit.
Deadliest
1 Eritrea 1/751
2 Cook Islands 1/1782
3 Eqypt 1/269
4 Jamahirya 1/854
5 Afghanistan 1/854
6 Iraq 1/1161
7 Niger 1/133
8 Angola 1/285
9 UAE 1/1661
10 Gambia 1/267
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1 Marshall Isl 1/2487
2 San Marino 1/51590
3 Malta 1/25437
4 Uraguay 1/6566
5 Netherlands 1/11205
5 Singapore 1/3978
7 Switzerland 1/14476
7 West Bank 1/418
9 Norway 1/11158
9 Japan 1/13764
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Ethiopia 1/100
Canada 1/6945
China 1/1503
Thailand 1/2051
South Africa 1/573
India 1/688
USA 1/5896
Germany 1/11217
Saudi Arabia 1/1163
Central African Republic 1/10
Sao Tome 1/60
Spain 1/7661
Mexico 1/1468

“This is just to inform jk@israeliteknight.com that I am really, REALLY keen on knowing this earth-shaking piece of information.”
Rather than taking a direct and honest approach at answering your question, I’m going to take an indirect and less honest approach which MIGHT not be censored by the education mafia.
If you look at the 2007 TIMSS math scores for 4,208 students in Botswana, 5,294 students in Ghana, and 3,407 students in Hong Kong who participated in this study, you will see that only 6 students in Botswana scored higher than 595 and only 7 students in Ghana scored higher than 585. If you take a detailed look at the Gaussian Distribution of these scores, you will see that NONE of the 4,208 students in Botswana and NONE of the 5,294 students in Ghana scored higher than 597.
So how does this equate to “IQ” that you are asking about?
The AVERAGE score for the 3,470 students in Hong Kong who took this test was 607, and NONE of them scored lower than 401 (37 points higher than the AVERAGE for Botswana of 364 and 92 points higher than the AVERAGE for Ghana of 309).
Professor Lynn graciously puts Hong Kong’s average IQ at 107. But he also puts the average IQ of Japan at aonly 105 and of Korea at 106 even though those two countries often score higher than Hong Kong on many of these international tests. So it would be conservative [or perhaps more reasonable] to estimate that a TIMSS math score of 607 is equivalent to an IQ of 105, a score which NO student in either Botswana or Ghana achieved.
Does THAT answer your question?

From a Hong Kong perspective, a TIMSS score of 784 is equivalent to an IQ of 132. Ghana’s score of 309 is 4.4 standard deviations (4.4 SD) lower than Hong Kong’s average score, and Botswana’s score of 364 is 3.6 SD lower. In order for a student in Hong Kong to score higher than 784 and thus demonstrate an IQ higher than 132, he would have to score 2.6 SD higher than Hong Kong’s average, a score which 34 Hong Kong students DID achieve.
As they scored MORE than 7 SD higher than Ghana and 6.2 SD higher than Botswana, can YOU tell us, liberals, exactly how many Ghanans and Botswanans YOU would expect to have an IQ higher than 132?

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